Choppin’ Wood Podcast

Holy Sass and Sanctified Sarcasm: When the Devil Crashes Your Bathroom Break

🔥 Episode 7
 
Holy Sass & Sanctified Sarcasm: When the Devil Crashes Your Bathroom Break
 
What if holiness isn’t about becoming quieter, smaller, or less yourself?
 
In this episode of Choppin’ Wood, Kristen reflects on one of the most infamous (and unexpectedly theological) saint stories of all time: St. Teresa of Ávila’s bathroom encounter with the devil — and what her joyful, unapologetic response teaches us about holiness, humor, and spiritual freedom.
 
Through stories from motherhood, reflections on Catholic theology, and examples from the lives of the saints, this episode explores why joy belongs in holiness, why grace doesn’t erase personality, and how sanctity looks wildly different depending on the person God created you to be.
 
This conversation gently dismantles the false binary between reverence and joy, seriousness and humanity, holiness and humor — and reminds us that the saints weren’t dull. They were dazzling.
 
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🪵 In this episode, we talk about:
•St. Teresa of Ávila and the holiest bathroom story ever told
•Why joy disarms accusation and reveals spiritual authority
•“Grace perfects nature” — not replaces it
•Why holiness doesn’t flatten personality, it redeems it
•The four classical temperaments and how sanctity looks different for different people
•Saints with strong personalities: St. Philip Neri, St. Lawrence, St. John Bosco, St. Joseph, and St. Thomas More
•How virtue disciplines temperament without erasing it
•Humor as resilience, humility, and freedom
•Staying human in the pursuit of holiness
 
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🌿 Key takeaway:
 
Holiness doesn’t require losing your personality.
It requires letting God shine through it.
 
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🪓 Your Turn to Chop (Reflection Questions):
•Where have I assumed holiness requires me to become less of who I am?
•Which parts of my personality do I tend to shrink or second-guess in spiritual spaces?
•Do I confuse seriousness with reverence? Why?
•Where might God be inviting me to let joy — not fear — have the final word?
•How could humor help me stay human in a place where I’m tempted to shut down?
 
Ask God this week:
“What part of me are You not trying to erase — but redeem?”
 
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🎧 Listen & Subscribe
 
New episodes of Choppin’ Wood drop weekly.
Follow the podcast so you don’t miss what’s next — and if this episode resonated, consider sharing it with someone who might need the reminder that holiness and joy belong together.
 
Until next time —
keep choppin’ wood. 🪵🔥

Theology of K-Pop Demon Hunters PT 2

⭐️ Episode 6 (Part 2)
Theology of K-Pop Demon Hunters: When the Music Fights Back
If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet: pause this episode and go do that first. Seriously. I’ll wait. 😇
In Part 2, we go deeper—into the theological gut-punches hiding in a sparkly K-Pop demon hunter movie. This episode is longer than usual on purpose, because I did what I do best: hyperfixated spiritually, emotionally, and academically until the Gospel started shouting at me through song lyrics.
We’re talking:confession, conversion, temptation, idolatry, resurrection…✨K-Pop Edition✨
Grab your coffee. Or your rosary. Or both. (Both feels right.)
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🎶 What We Cover (Segment Breakdown)
Segment 1 — Recap + Where We’re Going
A quick Part 1 check-in, plus a warning: you’re about to witness my full “ADHD + Adderall + Catholic theology + St. Thérèse won’t let me half-say anything” powers.
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Segment 2 — “Golden”
Sanctification, Refinement, and the Lie of Arrival
“Golden” sounds like a confidence anthem… but spiritually, it’s about becoming, not arriving.
We talk about:    •    Why gold in Scripture = refinement (tested by fire)    •    Rumi’s “crown without conviction” problem (authority without formation)    •    The spiritual exhaustion of being divided / double-minded    •    Why sanctification is cooperative: grace works when we stop gripping what needs to burn away
Scripture referenced:    •    1 Peter 1:7 (faith tested like gold)    •    James 1:8 (double-minded instability)    •    Romans 8:29 (conformed to Christ)    •    Malachi 3:3 (God the refiner)
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Segment 3 — “Takedown”
Spiritual Warfare, Righteous Anger, and the Limits of Rage
This is my spiritual warfare hype song. It’s giving: Ephesians 6 but make it choreography.
We talk about:    •    Why the most dangerous thing isn’t temptation… it’s fog    •    Anger as an awakening grace… and also a potential trap    •    How we’re called to fight evil without becoming evil    •    Why “standing” is the goal (stability + holiness), not domination    •    The saints’ warning: you can’t always be tempted into sin… but you can be tempted into fighting sin with pride
Scripture referenced:    •    1 Peter 5:8 (be sober + watchful)    •    Ephesians 4:26 (be angry, don’t sin)    •    Ephesians 6:11–12 (armor of God, not flesh and blood)    •    John 1:5 (darkness can’t overcome the Light)
Key line:Anger can wake you up. But it cannot sanctify you.
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Segment 4 — “Free”
Confession, Repentance, and the Courage to Be Seen
This is where the movie stops shouting and starts telling the truth.
We talk about:    •    Confession beginning when hiding stops working    •    How unconfessed sin “catches in the throat”    •    Why Catholic repentance is not solitary: healing happens when wounds are seen in mercy    •    Shame vs repentance: shame says “hide,” repentance says “see me and don’t leave”
Scripture referenced:    •    Psalm 32:3 (silence wastes the bones)    •    1 John 1:7 (walk in the light)    •    2 Corinthians 12:9 (power in weakness)    •    Psalm 51:17 (God doesn’t despise contrition)
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Segment 5 — “Your Idol”
Idolatry, Temptation, and the Counterfeit Savior
The most theologically dangerous song in the whole movie—because it sounds like prayer.
We talk about:    •    Why the Latin is chilling (borrowed sacred language)    •    Idolatry as a counterfeit liturgy: “pray to me, kneel to me”    •    The core lie: “I’m the only one who’ll love your sins”    •    Why idols promise “sanctuary” but lead to possession    •    Why temptation often gets louder right after confession: the enemy offers counterfeit mercy
Scripture referenced:    •    2 Corinthians 11:14 (angel of light)    •    John 8:11 (“go and sin no more”)    •    Matthew 6:24 (two masters)    •    John 8:32 (truth makes free)
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Segment 6 — “What It Sounds Like”
Conversion, Resurrection, and New Creation
This one wrecked me. Ugly crying. Living-room theology meltdown.
We talk about:    •    “I can’t go back” as the sound of conversion    •    The Christian life as death → resurrection, not “self-improvement”    •    Why scars don’t disqualify resurrection—they testify to it    •    The Church as voices combined: redeemed people singing through their scars
Scripture referenced:    •    John 12:24 (grain of wheat must die)    •    2 Corinthians 5:17 (new creation)    •    John 20:27 (Christ keeps His scars)    •    Psalm 51:8 (truth in the inmost being)    •    Ephesians 5:8 (children of light)    •    1 Corinthians 12:26 (suffer/rejoice together)    •    Psalm 34:9 (taste and see)    •    Romans 8:28 (God works all for good)
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🌹 Saint Quote to Begin
“Let us sing the song of our souls, even if it trembles.”— St. Zélie Martin (inspired)
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🪵 Your Turn to Chop — Listener Reflection Guide
Episode: “K-Pop Demon Hunters — Voices in the Battle (Part 2)”
1) “Golden” — The Light Within the Dark
Lyric Focus: “You don’t have to shine to be golden.”Scripture: John 1:5Prompt: Where do you feel dim or “not enough”? How might Christ’s light already be quietly golden there?
2) “Takedown” — Confronting the Enemy
Lyric Focus: “No mercy when the lies come crawling in.”Scripture: Ephesians 6:11Prompt: What lies steal your peace most often? What “armor” can you reach for this week?
3) “Free” — Facing What’s Broken
Lyric Focus: “We can’t fix it if we never face it.”Scripture: John 8:32Prompt: What truth are you avoiding? What would it look like to bring it into prayer or confession?
4) “Your Idol” — The False Gods We Feed
Lyric Focus: “You know I’m the only one who’ll love your sins.”Scripture: 1 John 5:21Prompt: What idol promises comfort/control but leaves you emptier? How can you surrender that space back to God this week?
5) “What It Sounds Like” — Redemption’s Song
Lyric Focus: “The scars are part of me, darkness and harmony…”Scripture: Psalm 30:11Prompt: What scar has become a source of empathy or beauty? Can you hear God’s harmony in your broken glass?
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📬 Connect
Got questions, thoughts, pushback, or a “Kristen… you are unwell but I loved it” reaction?Message me on Instagram @choppinwoodpod or email choppingwoodpod@gmail.com 
 
🔥COMING SOON:Holy Sass & Sanctified Sarcasm: When the Devil Crashes Your Bathroom Break 🚽✨
Saints had humor.Demons hate it.
We’re talking shame, joy, and why laughter can be armor.

What Even is Septuagesima?

🪵 Mini Episode 1: What Even Is Septuagesima?
Preparing for Lent — not by acting yet, but by paying attention.
“While we have time, let us do good.”— St. Francis de Sales
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Lent has a way of sneaking up on us.
We sprint through Christmas, limp through January, and suddenly Ash Wednesday is tapping us on the shoulder asking if we’re ready to give up chocolate again — and we’re… not.
In this first Choppin’ Wood mini episode, we slow things down and step into a lesser-known (but deeply wise) season of the Church: Septuagesima.
Septuagesima comes from the Latin septuagesimus, meaning seventieth, and marks roughly seventy days before Easter. Traditionally, it begins a quiet three-week period the Church used to help prepare souls for Lent before Ash Wednesday ever arrives.
In the Traditional Calendar, Septuagesima is its own season. In the Ordinary Form, we remain in Ordinary Time — but the wisdom behind Septuagesima is still very much alive.
This isn’t a season for penance yet.It’s not time to give things up.It’s not about piling on devotions.
Think of it like stretching before a marathon.
In this episode, we talk about:    •    Why the Church doesn’t rush us straight into Lent    •    How preparation matters just as much as penance    •    Why Lent isn’t meant to be improvised or reactive    •    How Septuagesima invites us to notice distractions, habits, and deeper patterns — before we act
And yes… we talk about why it’s probably not chocolate that’s standing between you and holiness.
These mini episodes are meant to be liturgical nuggets — short reflections tied to the Church calendar, the seasons we’re moving through, and the quiet wisdom that often gets lost when life is loud and fast.
They’re not meant to replace the longer episodes.They’re meant to help us walk with the Church, instead of scrambling at the last minute.
If you’ve ever felt like:    •    Lent shows up out of nowhere    •    Advent passes you by    •    Ordinary Time feels anything but ordinary
These mini episodes are for you.
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🌿 Your Turn to Chop — Reflection Questions    1.    What distractions or habits have been quietly (or not-so-quietly) pulling at your attention lately?    2.    Is there something the Lord may be inviting you to pray about giving up — or taking up — when Lent begins?    3.    What simple prayer could you carry with you through these weeks of preparation?(For example: “Lord, show me how to return to You.”)
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Thanks for joining me for the very first Choppin’ Wood mini episode.
Until next time —keep choppin’ wood. 🪵✨

Theology of K-Pop Demon Hunters PT 1

⭐️ Episode 5 — Theology of K-Pop Demon Hunters: Singing Back the Darkness (Part 1)
Saint Quote to Begin
“Music is a fair and glorious gift of God. Only the devil hates it.”— St. Augustine
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Episode Summary
If you had told me a few months ago that I’d be recording a Catholic theology episode about a K-pop demon-hunting movie, I would’ve laughed — nervously — and reached for holy water.
And yet… here we are.
In this episode, we step into K-Pop Demon Hunters not as passive consumers, but as Christians practicing discernment. What starts as a flashy pop-culture phenomenon turns out to be a surprisingly rich meditation on shame, identity, division, surrender, and redemption.
This is Part One of a two-part series. In this episode, we focus on the story — the characters, the central conflict, and the deep theological themes running underneath the neon lights and choreography.
In Part Two, we’ll slow way down and analyze the songs themselves — because the music preaches.
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What We Cover in This Episode    •    Why Catholics don’t need to disengage from culture — but discern it    •    The difference between rebellion and division (and why shame is the real antagonist)    •    Rumi’s hidden identity and why shame always silences    •    Why perfectionism is not redemption (and never has been)    •    The moment everything hinges on: “I can’t”    •    Why surrender, not performance, is where grace finally moves    •    Jinu’s story as a reflection on repentance, sacrifice, and costly love    •    Why music has always been a battleground — and a bridge — between heaven and earth
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Key Theological Threads    •    Shame vs. Sin: Shame doesn’t say you did wrong — it says you are wrong    •    Division: Living a split life is where spiritual collapse begins    •    Works Without Grace: Why trying harder doesn’t heal the wound    •    Surrender: The terrifying, necessary moment where pride dies    •    Redemption: Not erasing the story — but redeeming it    •    Voice & Worship: Why refusing silence is an act of spiritual warfare
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Scripture Referenced    •    Genesis 3 (The Fall and hiding)    •    Psalm 32:3 — “When I kept silent, my bones wasted away…”    •    Psalm 51:17 — “A broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise.”    •    John 15:13 — “No one has greater love than this…”    •    Luke 22–24 (Peter’s denial and restoration)    •    John 21:15–17 — “Do you love me?”    •    Romans 8:1 — “There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.”
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Your Turn to Chop 🪵
Take this into prayer this week:    •    Where are you still trying to fix yourself before letting God love you?    •    What part of your story feels too broken to sing out loud?    •    What would it look like to choose surrender over control — even once?
If you can, take one small step:    •    Name something honestly in prayer    •    Bring a long-hidden struggle to confession    •    Or simply say: “Lord, I can’t… but You can.”
Don’t erase it.Bring it into the light.Let truth be the beginning of your song.
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Coming Up Next
🎶 Part Two drops next week — where we dive deep into the soundtrack:    •    Golden    •    Takedown    •    Free    •    Your Idol    •    What It Sounds Like
We’ll talk sanctification, spiritual warfare, confession, idolatry, and resurrection — lyric by lyric.
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Stay Connected
Questions? Thoughts? Pushback? A “Kristen, you are unwell but I loved it” reaction?
📩 Email: choppingwoodpod@gmail.com📱 Instagram: @choppinwoodpod
Thanks for chopping this pile of wood with me.Until next time — keep singing, keep fighting, and keep choppin’ wood. 🪵✨

Not Now God

Episode 4: “Not Now, God"
If St. Augustine praying “make me chaste… but not yet” has ever felt a little too relatable, this episode is for you. Today we’re diving into the spiritual (and hilariously everyday) reality of procrastination — from fossilized granola bars in my 12‑passenger van to the deeper ways we tell God, “Later, I promise.”
We’ll talk about the difference between delay and disobedience, why perfectionism’s twin sister is named Procrastination, and how grace refuses to wait until we “feel ready.”
This episode is equal parts conviction and comfort — and a reminder that holiness starts right where we are, crumbs and all.
Grab your coffee, your metaphorical axe, and maybe a trash bag for the backseat.Let’s get choppin’.
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🌲 REFLECTION QUESTIONS 
1. “Later, Lord…”Where in your life do you most often tell God “not now”?(Prayer? A hard conversation? A mess you don’t want to face?)
2. Delayed obedienceHow does procrastination show up in your spiritual life — not in rebellion, but in hesitation?
3. The lie of “I’ll be more ready later”What do you tell yourself you’ll have “more of later”?(Time, energy, clarity, patience, motivation?)
4. Perfectionism vs. ProcrastinationDo you stop yourself from starting because you want it perfect…or because you don’t feel like beginning?(Or both?)
5. Grace in the nowWhat is one small act of obedience you can choose today, even if you don’t feel ready?
6. Your van momentWhat’s the “van” in your life — that thing you avoid until it becomes a spiritual metaphor on wheels?
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🌲 SHOW NOTES 
Saint Quote:“Lord, make me chaste — but not yet.” — St. Augustine
In this episode, we’re tackling one of the most relatable struggles of all time: procrastination. From the disaster zone of my 12‑passenger van to the spiritual habit of telling God, “I’ll get to it later,” we explore how delay affects our peace, our prayer, and our trust.
What we talk about:    •    Why procrastination isn’t laziness — it’s delayed obedience    •    How “later” becomes the devil’s favorite distraction    •    The spiritual danger of assuming we’ll always have more time    •    How perfectionism and procrastination work as twin saboteurs    •    Scripture that calls us into the now (2 Cor 6:2; Eph 5:15–17)    •    How grace shows up in the doing, not the planning    •    Why holiness doesn’t wait for perfect timing
Mentioned:    •    The Catechism on conscience (CCC 1778)    •    My infamous high‑school “Saturation Paper”    •    The colony of ancient Goldfish crackers in my van
For your prayer time:Closing prayer asking for the grace to respond now, not later.

The Devil Has A Pinterest Board

⭐ EPISODE 3 — SHOW NOTES
 
“The Devil Has a Pinterest Board”
 
Episode Summary
 
In this episode of Choppin’ Wood, Kristen gets real about perfectionism — the sneaky, holy‑looking habit that convinces us we’re being virtuous when we’re really just exhausted and controlled by fear. From homeschooling meltdowns to the Sunday morning scramble to spiritual “glow‑up” fantasies gone wrong, Kristen unpacks how perfectionism sidetracks us from grace, distracts us from love, and steals our peace one unrealistic expectation at a time.
 
If you’ve ever found yourself spiraling because something wasn’t “perfect,” comparing your spiritual life to Instagram aesthetics, or promising that this is the year you’ll finally become a whole new woman by Thursday… this episode will make you feel seen, understood, and hopefully a little freer.
 
We talk about holiness in the real world — messy, loud, human, and honest — and why God never asked us for perfect… only present.
 
And because perfectionism rarely travels alone, Kristen sets you up for next week’s companion episode all about her twin sister: procrastination.
 
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⭐ Key Topics
•Why perfectionism feels holy (but isn’t)
•How the enemy uses “not good enough” to keep us stuck
•Homeschooling expectations vs. homeschooling reality
•Comparison culture and the trap of aesthetic Catholicism
•The myth of the spiritual “New Year glow‑up”
•Sunday chaos as accidental sanctification
•The real root of perfectionism: control
•Grace as the antidote to performing for God
•Practicing imperfection as a spiritual discipline
 
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⭐ Saint Quote of the Episode
 
“Do not lose your inner peace for anything whatsoever, even if your whole world seems upset.”
— St. Francis de Sales
 
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⭐ Your Turn to Chop
 
Take a moment this week to simply notice where perfectionism might be stealing your peace. You don’t have to fix anything — just tell the truth about what’s happening in your heart, and let God meet you there.
 
If you want to go a little deeper, here are some gentle reflection questions you can sit with anytime this week:
 
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🌱 Reflection Questions
 
✨ Where do I feel the strongest pressure to “perform” — spiritually, emotionally, or practically?
 
✨ How is perfectionism keeping me from loving the people right in front of me?
 
✨ What would “good enough” actually look like in my life this week?
 
✨ Where could gratitude soften the places where I’m usually hard on myself?
 
✨ Is there a moment recently where perfectionism stole my peace? What might choosing grace look like instead?
 
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✨ The Litany of Humility
 
O Jesus, meek and humble of heart,
Hear me.
 
From the desire of being esteemed, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being loved, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being extolled, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being honored, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being praised, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being preferred to others, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being consulted, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the desire of being approved, deliver me, O Jesus.
 
From the fear of being humiliated, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being despised, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of suffering rebukes, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being calumniated, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being forgotten, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being ridiculed, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being wronged, deliver me, O Jesus.
From the fear of being suspected, deliver me, O Jesus.
 
That others may be loved more than I,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That others may be esteemed more than I,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That, in the opinion of the world, others may increase and I may decrease,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That others may be chosen and I set aside,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That others may be praised and I go unnoticed,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That others may be preferred to me in everything,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
That others may become holier than I,
provided that I may become as holy as I should,
Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.
 
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✨ The Divine Mercy Chaplet
 
How to Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet
(Using ordinary Rosary beads)
 
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1️⃣ Opening Prayers
 
Make the Sign of the Cross.
 
Optional opening (recommended):
“You expired, Jesus, but the source of life gushed forth for souls,
and the ocean of mercy opened up for the whole world.
O Fount of Life, unfathomable Divine Mercy,
envelop the whole world and empty Yourself out upon us.”
 
Repeat 3 times:
“O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus
as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in You!”
 
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2️⃣ On the Our Father Bead
 
Pray:
Eternal Father,
I offer You the Body and Blood,
Soul and Divinity
of Your dearly beloved Son,
our Lord Jesus Christ,
in atonement for our sins
and those of the whole world.
 
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3️⃣ On Each of the Ten Hail Mary Beads
 
Pray (10 times):
For the sake of His sorrowful Passion,
have mercy on us and on the whole world.
 
(Repeat the above sequence on all five decades.)
 
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4️⃣ After the Five Decades
 
Repeat 3 times:
Holy God, Holy Mighty One,
Holy Immortal One,
have mercy on us and on the whole world.
 
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5️⃣ Closing Prayer (Optional but beautiful)
 
“Eternal God,
in whom mercy is endless
and the treasury of compassion inexhaustible,
look kindly upon us
and increase Your mercy in us,
that in difficult moments
we might not despair nor become despondent,
but with great confidence
submit ourselves to Your holy will,
which is Love and Mercy itself.”
 
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⭐ Favorite Moments
•“The devil has a Pinterest board labeled ‘How to Keep Kristen Distracted.’”
•“If you want to see perfectionism die in real time… welcome to our house on a Sunday morning.”
•“Perfectionism is just control in a cuter outfit.”
•“Holiness isn’t polished. It’s present.”
 
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⭐ Looking Ahead
 
Perfectionism rarely travels alone — she’s got a twin sister: procrastination.
Next week, we’re diving right into her chaos too. Because if perfectionism freezes you, procrastination keeps you from ever starting.
 
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⭐ If You’re Loving the Show
 
Share this episode with a friend who needs a little relief from perfectionism.
Subscribe, leave a review, or send Kristen a message — your support helps this little podcast grow.
 
Until next time, friends… keep choppin’ wood. 🌿🪵

Discernment, But Make It Discount Retail

⭐ Episode 2 — Following the Direction Given
In this episode, Kristen shares how the Holy Spirit redirected her plans for Episode 2 — and how the start of a new year often invites us not to add more, but to pay attention to what God has already been doing.
She reflects on a year marked by unexpected pruning: slow reveals, dramatic moments, and the kind of spiritual stripping that forces us to let go of what we’ve been leaning on. Instead of striving, God invites surrender. Instead of resolutions, He offers revelation.
Kristen talks about choosing a word, a virtue, and a saint for the year — not as self‑improvement goals, but as a way of noticing where the Holy Spirit is already moving. With humor, honesty, and a surprise Instagram confirmation (plus a Hobby Lobby cameo), she shares how the Lord led her to her word for 2026: fulfillment.
If you’ve been feeling stretched, pruned, redirected, or uncertain as the new year begins, this episode offers companionship, clarity, and a gentler way forward.
 
🌿 YOUR TURN TO CHOP — Reflection Questions
Before rushing into the rest of your day, take a moment to pause and simply notice.No pressure. No self‑fixing. Just attention.
Here are a few gentle questions to sit with:
1. Looking back on this past year…
Where do you see signs of pruning?What was stripped away — not to punish, but to prepare?
2. What has God already been revealing about your weak or tender places?
Not to shame you, but to invite healing and support?
3. Is there a word, phrase, or posture that keeps returning quietly?
Something that feels more like an anchor than a goal?
4. Is there a saint, scripture, or theme that won’t leave you alone?
How does it feel to stop dismissing it and simply notice?
5. Where might God be inviting you to remain instead of strive?
Where is the call less about doing more and more about being honest?

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